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02:53 < surya> I need some help understanding how BPTT works in the optimizers
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03:32 < hassan_> Hello People. I showed interest in "Essential Deep Learning Modules" project on the mailing list.
03:33 < hassan_> I digged deep in the project, specifically "Stacked Generative Adversarial Networks" and "Bidirectional Recurrent Neural Networks".
03:34 < hassan_> There are a few questions that I need to ask to the mentors of project, Marcus Edel and Mikhail Lozhnikov.
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06:09 < Atharva> zoq: Is there a way we can get the activations of certain hidden layers which we want in the ffn/rnn classes?
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06:22 < donjin_master> hello everyone zoq i have an query that for one project more than one person can be selected or not?? like in reinforcement learning project should i have to submit the propsal of one algorithm or according to my capability if the same person has given proposal for that then should i have a chance to get selected..
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08:59 < manthan> atharva i think, looping for the network, just like how looping for evaluating the network or backprop is done, can get you the activations.
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09:09 < ckeshavabs> zoq: thanks for the link on Alias layer. I will look into it and get back to you
09:21 < ckeshavabs> Also, can you help me find the header files/definitions of certain classes in the codebase? Like the UpdaterType is used extensively in q_learning.hpp file, but I wanted to see it's implementation. I googled and could find ReplayType and NetworkType definitions, but I wanted a more general way to find files.
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10:10 < Atharva> manthan: thanks!
10:18 < ckeshavabs> Also, I am interested in implementing reward clipping and gradient clipping for the q_learning_impl.cpp file. So, is it better write them as a seperate class? Also, these could be useful for other purposes than RL also? So, where would it be appropriate to place it (which directory)?
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11:15 < ckeshavabs> Hi, I had asked a question about finding the relevant files at about 09:21, but I figured that I could just follow the #includes in .cpp files. I couldn't figure it out then, because I was only looking through header files
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12:16 < zoq> hassanmahmood: Hello, please post the queries here, once we have a chance we will get back.
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12:17 < zoq> Atharva: activation = boost::apply_visitor(outputParameterVisitor, network[i];
12:20 < zoq> donjin_master: The number of methods should be reasonable, we only have a couple of weeks and we will have to write tests and documentation for each.
12:21 < zoq> ckeshavabs: You could search on the github repo or browse/search the doxygen docs: http://www.mlpack.org/docs/mlpack-git/doxygen/index.html
12:23 < zoq> ckeshavabs: Gradient clipping is already implemented, reward clipping could be implemented in the same way.
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13:50 < haritha1313> @rcurtin: @zoq: Hi, I have uploaded a project proposal draft for idea 'Alternatives to neighborhood based collaborative filtering'. Could you please have a look and suggest changes whenever you have time. Thanks.
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14:24 < haritha1313> @sumedhghaisas2
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14:39 < rcurtin> haritha1313: looks good, my only question is, how will this integrate with the existing `CF` class and cf binding? ideally I'd prefer to not also have a separate `NCF` class and ncf binding
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15:26 < haritha1313> @rcurtin: Thanks for going through the draft. The reason I kept NCF as a different class is because it has almost different data member/member function requirements. True, it would be logically better to have it within CF itself.
15:26 < haritha1313> A few alternatives I could think of are: 1. Have NCF as a seperate class within mlpack/methods/cf which can then be accessed within cf_main to create objects.
15:27 < haritha1313> 2. Derive NCF class from CF class. 3. Merge both classes and overload functions like Train(), ComputeRecommendations() etc. (but this could result in unwanted data members depending upon algorithm chosen).
15:27 < haritha1313> I am not sure of how clean the structure would be in any of these cases, please do let me know what you think.
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15:34 < Atharva> sumedhghaisas2: on the gsoc ideas page, it has been mentioned to add regularizing functionality for the VAE, what exactly is expected? The paper it points doesn’t say much about it.
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15:46 < manish7294> rcurtin: I have made some changes in proposal. If you get to find some time, then please comment your opinion.
15:56 < rcurtin> haritha1313: I'd suggest possibly the use of templates to make the CF class more generic; for instance, I might consider something kind of like
15:56 < rcurtin> CF<DecompositionStrategy> where DecompositionStrategy can be NCF, AMF, or whatever else
15:57 < rcurtin> I think this will require some amount of refactoring of the CF code, but I think it would result in a better class in the end
15:57 < rcurtin> manish7294: I don't have time today, but I will try and look in the next couple of days
15:58 < manish7294> rcurtin: Sure, No hurry
15:59 < haritha1313> @rcurtin: I did consider this approach.
16:00 < haritha1313> I was concerned with the FFN related data members. If I make them a part of the CF class, they won't be useful if decomposition strategy is set to NMF or something else.
16:01 < haritha1313> But this is what I meant by merging the classes in the third alternative I suggested.
16:03 < rcurtin> haritha1313: right, but if you do this with templates I think you can avoid having decomposition-specific members be a part of the CF class itself
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16:07 < haritha1313_> @rcurtin: True, it will need some refactoring in CF, but it will be worth doing :) . Thanks for helping out.
16:08 < haritha1313_> I will make modifications to accomodate this in the proposal. Please do let me know if there are any other suggestions regarding the draft.
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17:00 < sumedhghaisas2> @Atharva: Hi Atharva
17:00 < sumedhghaisas2> the regularizing functionality is mentioned in the tutorial paper that I have added.
17:00 < sumedhghaisas2> let me see if I can find the link again
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17:02 < sumedhghaisas2> @Atharva: https://arxiv.org/abs/1606.05908 the paper
17:02 < sumedhghaisas2> look under section 2.4.3
17:03 < sumedhghaisas2> I would prioritize over conditional distribution before regularization. :)
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17:36 < Atharva> sumedhghaisas: Sorry, I am a little confused, do you mean to say that I should prioritize conditional distribution and then look at regularisation?
17:36 < sumedhghaisas> @Atharva: Yes :)
17:38 < Atharva> Okay, and is it okay if I leave the implementation of some of the things to be figured out later? my proposal is getting very long and also some things feel like they cannot be decided before we actually start working.
17:39 < Atharva> sumedhghaisas:
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19:01 < Atharva> sumedhghaisas: in conditional distribution, we concatenate the labels to the input data. But what if the input data is 2d(say an image) and we want to use convolutional layers, how should we concatenate?
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19:48 < sumedhghaisas> @Atharva: the condition can be treated in many ways, the simplest is to process labels through linear layer to get it in the image shape, for Mnist it's 28 * 28 then add it to the image as channel
19:56 < Atharva> Oh, okay, that’s really cool
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20:10 < mystery> hey
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20:11 < mystery> i wanted to know more about the project
20:11 < mystery> like where to start from
20:11 < mystery> i am a new commer to this project
20:12 < mystery> maybe someone could help me with that
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20:18 < zoq> mystery: Hello, have you seen www.mlpack.org/involved.html and http://mlpack.org/gsoc.html?
20:19 < mystery> yes I have seen that but i don't undersyand where to start from
20:19 < mystery> can you help me with that
20:20 < zoq> sure we can help you with that, as the involed page suggested building mlpack from source is the first step
20:20 < mystery> and i haven't given the proposal yet so i wanted to know how to write the proposal for this ml pack
20:21 < zoq> the application guide should be helpful here: https://github.com/mlpack/mlpack/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-Application-Guide
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20:26 < rcurtin> mystery: another important step would be to choose a project for your proposal, so be sure to look at the ideas list
20:30 < mystery> so basically i have to work on a particular idea if i get selected
20:31 < zoq> correct
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21:24 < manthan> @zoq @rcurtin could you please have a look at my proposal and suggest me things to improve it.
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21:46 < zoq> manthan: made some comments
21:46 < manthan> Thanks zoq for the comments, I am on it. :D
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